So here was the piercing question in our class yesterday: "Why do you believe in Jesus Christ?" And "What would you say to someone who was not a Christian about why they should believe in Him?"
I can't say that I have really delved much into these questions... At first thought, you would say "Because the Bible says so." But is that the only justification that God has given us to share with others about why we believe? Hardly. So here, I would like to share with you the four reasons extended to me yesterday that we can use to reach others who are in doubt...
As a quick side note before I begin--Are you one of those in doubt? Are you one of those looking to atheism? agnosticism? philosophy? materialism? or false religion? Where will these things leave you at the end of your life? If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, where are you going to go? I challenge you to think about these questions in depth, read the rest of this post, and submerge yourself in prayer and the Bible. God is real... Amazingly real. You will see.
Reason #1: The Historical Fact.
Jesus Christ is a FACT of history. Do the research. He truly walked the face of this planet for 33 1/2 years and was crucified on a cross. Think about this: Even out dates revolve around the reality of Christ! (B.C.'"Before Christ", A.D. or Anno Domini translated is "In the year of our Lord")
"The impact of Christian religion in general, and in particular the behavior of the early church, is logically unexplainable without the reality of both Jesus Christ and His bodily resurrection." Think the people who saw Jesus after His resurrection were just seeing things? Did you know that he was seen by over 500 people?!?!! That's an awful lot of hallucinatin'!! These people died for the cause of Christ. People may live for a lie--but they will not die for one.
Reason #2: The Biblical Fact.
2 Timothy 3:16-17a "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect"
The Bible is the steadfast, rock solid Word of God.
1 Thessalonians 1:5 "For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance..."
Here is where we can say "The Bible says so!" : )
And with that being settled, the Bible also says that Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus had a miraculous birth, an astounding, miracle-filled life, and a sacrificial death.
Reason #3: The Spiritual Fact.
John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
"Your human mind will never, by itself, logically and coldly turn to Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord"
1 Corinthians 2:10-11 "But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God."
1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
The Holy Spirit shows us the Truth.
1 Thessalonians 1:5 "For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake."
The Holy Spirit testifies to you.
1 John 5:10 "He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son."
The Holy Spirit testifies in you.
Reason #4: The Personal Fact.
Read the verses listed at the beginning again. Peter knew the Truth.
"Beyond all logical proof (and there is PLENTY), we know because we know--we know Him personally and experientially."
How can you explain the life change of a person after salvation? You can't! God does it, miraculously and wonderfully.
Did you read Lauren's most recent Thankful Thursday post? She experienced it.
I can assure you, I have experienced it... That incredible, life-altering change that only comes from God. There are no doubts as to the reality and fact of Jesus Christ!!
Acts 26:17-18 "...now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me."
Jesus is real. It is the fact. It is indisputable and undeniable.
This is why I believe! : )
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Reason #1: The Historical Fact.
ReplyDeleteWhether or not there was a man that fit the description and did the deeds that Jesus did is irrelevant because the impact on the world from the stories is the same, as you mentioned.
I did the research as you suggested. The spread and the impact of the Christian religion is actually not as far removed from other religions as you would think. In fact according to ReligiousTolerence.com which is an website that publishes international studies about religion states percentage of the world that calls themselves Christians of all denominations numbers around 32% and the numbers have been dropping consistently.
Also there have been studies on the behavior of the early church. In fact, one study points out that during the black plague that Christians were the only population to not abandon the sick because of their beliefs. The theory is that most other belief systems left the home as soon as a family member got sick and left them to die. While the abandoned died from the plague, starvation, and lack of hygiene, the Christians were tending to their sick and even helping and converting their neighbors. Do I believe that these people were divinely influenced? I do not know. If someone saved my life, I would definitely be more inclined to listen to them and convert to their ideology, because divine or not, it is what saved me. What I do know is that contrary to your statement that "People may live for a lie--but they will not die for one," that medical professionals and Military members who are not Christians put their life on the line every day for causes other than Christ.
Reason #3: The Spiritual Fact.
"Your human mind will never, by itself, logically and coldly turn to Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord"
So with this one I will refer to the points brought up earlier:
Is the truth universal? If it is, then is fact of truth different for each person? Does the teaching of the Holy Spirit vary from denomination to denomination and congregation to congregation? If we are taught spiritually by the same God, than wouldn't a majority of the followers agree on at least the basics?
Reason #4: The Personal Fact.
"Beyond all logical proof (and there is PLENTY), we know because we know--we know Him personally and experientially."
In this post you list a lot of 'facts' from the Bible. But I fail to see plenty of "logical proof" and am curious as to what you are referring to. I agree that you cannot explain a religious experience to another person, because it is your own personal experience. I know that many have searched for it, tried to find it, or even force it. These of course are futile. People pursue it out of fear of eternal punishment, the need to belong, and righteousness. I personally have had many experiences, close calls, and unlikely situations that seem out of touch with reality. Does anyone want to face the consequences of unbelief? I don't believe so. No matter how much a child fears the monster that hounds him, it does not make it any more real. Neither does the prayers of the pious of all the different religions make their teachings a 'fact'.
Perhaps being one of the only people with an opinion like this in this medium is not the most productive way to go about this. I am of the belief that many people have similar thoughts on the subject but refrain out of fear of rejection. I hope that you will not see this reply as an affront, as I respect your opinion, and I hope to hear more of it. Thank you.
ANON: “Whether or not there was a man that fit the description and did the deeds that Jesus did is irrelevant because the impact on the world from the stories is the same, as you mentioned. ”
ReplyDeleteAP31: I want to begin here, the fact that Jesus Christ walked on our planet and accomplished all that He accomplished is quite relevant. My post stated, at this point, that without the fact of Jesus Christ the impact of Christian religion and the behavior of the early church is unjustifiable.
ANON: “I did the research as you suggested. The spread and the impact of the Christian religion is actually not as far removed from other religions as you would think. In fact according to ReligiousTolerence.com which is an website that publishes international studies about religion states percentage of the world that calls themselves Christians of all denominations numbers around 32% and the numbers have been dropping consistently.”
AP31: The research I was pointing you to, was researching the reality of Jesus Christ--the fact that He was here.
Also, this post, or blog, is not about “religion” or, just any so-called “Christianity”. Christian means “Christ-like”—it is having a personal relationship with Him. “Christian” is such a loose term nowadays. I dare say 32% is a high estimate—and that is to be expected. The Bible has a lot to say about these things:
Galatians 1:6-8 “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from Him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”
2 Timothy 3: 1-7 “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
2 Corinthians 4: 3-5 ”If our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world (the devil) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.”
The “last days” are closer every moment. More and more will be “lovers of themselves” and less will be “lovers of God”.
ANON: “Also there have been studies on the behavior of the early church. In fact, one study points out that during the black plague that Christians were the only population to not abandon the sick because of their beliefs. The theory is that most other belief systems left the home as soon as a family member got sick and left them to die. While the abandoned died from the plague, starvation, and lack of hygiene, the Christians were tending to their sick and even helping and converting their neighbors.”
AP31: As they should have.
ANON: ”Do I believe that these people were divinely influenced?”
AP31: Of course.
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ANON: “I do not know. If someone saved my life, I would definitely be more inclined to listen to them and convert to their ideology, because divine or not, it is what saved me. “
ReplyDeleteAP31: I find a fatal flaw in your reasoning here, because Acts 17:28 states, “in Him we live, and move, and have our being;”
It was not them that saved any one.
ANON: “What I do know is that contrary to your statement that "People may live for a lie--but they will not die for one," that medical professionals and Military members who are not Christians put their life on the line every day for causes other than Christ.”
AP31: Also, I did not say that any one who dies for a cause, dies for the cause of Christ. I said people will not die, knowingly, for a lie. My heart and prayers go out to all of our military, for their safety and salvation.
ANON: “"Your human mind will never, by itself, logically and coldly turn to Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord"
So with this one I will refer to the points brought up earlier:
Is the truth universal? If it is, then is fact of truth different for each person? Does the teaching of the Holy Spirit vary from denomination to denomination and congregation to congregation? If we are taught spiritually by the same God, than wouldn't a majority of the followers agree on at least the basics?”
AP31: There is one truth—Jesus Christ. He is the WAY, the TRUTH, the LIFE. And NONE can come to the Father, except through Him. Also, again, this is not about denominations—this is about the One True God, His Holy, Flawless Word, and His Perfect Son.
ANON: "Beyond all logical proof (and there is PLENTY), we know because we know--we know Him personally and experientially."
In this post you list a lot of 'facts' from the Bible. But I fail to see plenty of "logical proof" and am curious as to what you are referring to.”
AP31: I did not go into detail about these proofs, as I was trying to keep my post relatively short. : ) A great site to look into to see all matters of proof would be www.answersingenesis.org . As their site states “Believing it. Defending it. Proclaiming it.”—and that is exactly what it does.
ANON: “I agree that you cannot explain a religious experience to another person, because it is your own personal experience. I know that many have searched for it, tried to find it, or even force it. These of course are futile. People pursue it out of fear of eternal punishment, the need to belong, and righteousness. I personally have had many experiences, close calls, and unlikely situations that seem out of touch with reality. Does anyone want to face the consequences of unbelief? I don't believe so. No matter how much a child fears the monster that hounds him, it does not make it any more real. Neither does the prayers of the pious of all the different religions make their teachings a 'fact'.”
AP31: This no mere fairy tail. This is no “monster under your bed”. This is no “different, pious religion”. God is real. One of first tools satan used in the Garden of Eden was deception—getting people to believe that God is not real or doesn’t really mean what He says—and satan has been using this ploy ever since.
Matthew 7:13-15 “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”
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ANON: “Perhaps being one of the only people with an opinion like this in this medium is not the most productive way to go about this. I am of the belief that many people have similar thoughts on the subject but refrain out of fear of rejection. I hope that you will not see this reply as an affront, as I respect your opinion, and I hope to hear more of it. Thank you.”
ReplyDeleteAP31: I am positive of the fact that you are not the only one who feels this way. I am also sure that there are many who do not refrain, either. : ) I am not offended at your response. I thank you, that you have caused me to look further into God’s word—and delve further into Him for answers.
There are two things I would like to say in closing. First, a great book I would like to suggest to you would be— “The Case for Christ” by Lee Strobel. He was a newspaper reporter that set out to prove that God was not real, and that TRUE Christianity was false. You can read it to find out what he did and what conclusion he met.
Second, you have to come to a point where you settle “What do I accept as the standard of truth?” or “Is there a standard of truth?”
Hebrews 11:1 & 3 “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen…Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."
You must accept that God is the truth.
Genesis 1:1 “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
God does not leave any question or doubt, from His very first verse, as to His existence and reality.
I’ll be praying for you. I will pray this:
Ephesians 3:14-19 “For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, That he would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might by His Spirit in the inner man; That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye…may be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fullness of God.”
With all love, prayer, and thoughts for you,
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Sorry for the many posts--it was too long for one!!! : )
ReplyDeleteAlso, I am reviewing the sources you gave me and will reply with my thoughts on those. I would also like to give you some sources to look at as well, although I am not claiming I agree with everything from these sources, but they do present evidence to support and dispute, just like any other source. I hope you will review these and give me your thoughts as well:
ReplyDeletehttp://thethinkingatheist.com/
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html#good_to_all
Reason #2: The Biblical Fact.
ReplyDelete"At first thought, you would say "Because the Bible says so." But is that the only justification that God has given us to share with others about why we believe? Hardly."
In your post your proof that the Bible is real is from a verses in the Bible. In a sense you are using an unproven mathematical equation in an unproven mathematical formula. I like to argue both sides so lets tackle both scenarios:
1. The Bible IS authentically, unequivocally God's word and is indisputable, and being divine, is perfect and cannot be misinterpreted by anyone because in it's perfection the knowledge is pure.
2. The Bible is a collection of manuscripts from over a span of hundreds of years of kinsman who shared the same beliefs and common philosophy, much as other religions that still exist do (i.e. Taoism, Buddhism, and Hindu to name a few that pre-date Christianity) and has been translated multiple times and in multiple languages to the point that the writings have been translated to make sense to the reader by the translator. At that not all of the writings of Jesus and other Biblical stories are translated, because all of the books that the Bible presently has were debated on by a large council of men, The Council of Hippo (A.D. 393) and the Council of Carthage (A.D. 397), and so is not only flawed, but is inaccurate and incomplete. In another words, the Bible is man's word and not God's and open to man's flawed interpretation.
So lets examine the first point. If the Bible is infallible, even it has scripture of warning to misinterpretation:
ReplyDeleteNKJV James 3:5-7
"Even so the tongue is a little member and boasts great things. See how great a forest a little fire kindles! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell."
Even in the situation of the Bible being divine would any one argue that even a man of God is not perfect? Obviously if the scriptures were infallible, everyone believer would agree on them. As it is, even the closest congregation does not agree on every single verse in all of the books in the entire Bible.
And if the Bible is indeed fallible, that means that a quote from it does not make it a 'fact'.
ANON: “"At first thought, you would say "Because the Bible says so." But is that the only justification that God has given us to share with others about why we believe? Hardly."
ReplyDeleteIn your post your proof that the Bible is real is from a verses in the Bible. In a sense you are using an unproven mathematical equation in an unproven mathematical formula. I like to argue both sides so lets tackle both scenarios:”
AP31: The Bible is not about math or arguments. We should never try to make God fit into some human mold of theory and ideals. The Bible is the truth—it IS The Word of The Almighty God.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.”
2 Peter 1:20-21 “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
ANON: “1. The Bible IS authentically, unequivocally God's word and is indisputable, and being divine, is perfect and cannot be misinterpreted by anyone because in it's perfection the knowledge is pure.”
ReplyDeleteAP31: There is no basis for saying that the Bible cannot be misinterpreted by us. Even in the Bible, early churches had plenty of problems with misinterpretation and false prophets. Hence the verses:
Galatians 1:6-8 “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from Him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”
2 Timothy 3: 1-7 “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
Which I already gave, or others like:
Proverbs 30:5-6 “Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.”
Revelation 22:18-19 “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
We are given these warnings because it is an issue. But you did have it right that The Word is perfect and pure!
ANON: “2. The Bible is a collection of manuscripts from over a span of hundreds of years of kinsman who shared the same beliefs and common philosophy,”
ReplyDeleteAP31: This is not what the Bible is at all. Please refer to above verses, 2 Timothy 3:16-17 & 2 Peter 1:20-21.
ANON: “much as other religions that still exist do (i.e. Taoism, Buddhism, and Hindu to name a few that pre-date Christianity) and has been translated multiple times and in multiple languages to the point that the writings have been translated to make sense to the reader by the translator. At that not all of the writings of Jesus and other Biblical stories are translated, because all of the books that the Bible presently has were debated on by a large council of men, The Council of Hippo (A.D. 393) and the Council of Carthage (A.D. 397), and so is not only flawed, but is inaccurate and incomplete. In another words, the Bible is man's word and not God's and open to man's flawed interpretation.”
AP31: The Bible is not a religion. It is the Word of God, and as I have said before—this is not about religion… It is about the truth of His Word, and His saving knowledge that brings us to Him. And nothing pre-dates God. Nothing.
Yet again, the Bible is not man’s word. It’s His. Please see previous verses.
And, whether or not a group of men sat down to debate on anything has no bearing on His Truth or His Word. Nor does it make It open to any sort of interpretation.
ANON: “So lets examine the first point. If the Bible is infallible, even it has scripture of warning to misinterpretation:
ReplyDeleteNKJV James 3:5-7 "Even so the tongue is a little member and boasts great things. See how great a forest a little fire kindles! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell." ”
AP31: True.
ANON: “Even in the situation of the Bible being divine would any one argue that even a man of God is not perfect?”
AP31: Jesus has been the only perfect man on the face of this planet.
ANON: “Obviously if the scriptures were infallible, everyone believer would agree on them. As it is, even the closest congregation does not agree on every single verse in all of the books in the entire Bible.”
AP31: I’m really not sure what has led you to believe that everyone would agree to everything. As it stands in this sin-filled, wicked world—people have misinterpreted God’s word, usually to suit themselves—and lead to all sorts of VERY WRONG ideas and misconceptions. That itself is represented in the Bible in many places. The truth is that when the Bible is read, studied, and lead by the Holy Spirit—it is perfect.
It’s a sad reality that many congregations today are as you have described. But—what they are doing is anti-Biblical:
Philippians 1:9-11 "And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment; That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ. Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God."
ReplyDeleteGalatians 5:13-15 "For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty (or freedom); only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself". But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another."
Ephesians 4:29 "Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers."
Philippians 2:3-4 "Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others."
And this is just a few…
Did any of these people you mention go back to the Word of God when their disagreements began? Did they look at the Bible as a whole when finding the Truth? Are they truly Christ-like people—who’s only goal is to be more like Him—“Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints” Ephesians 6:18
No. They didn’t. And that is a sad reflection of God’s people.
ANON: “And if the Bible is indeed fallible, that means that a quote from it does not make it a 'fact'.”
ReplyDeleteAP31: The Bible is not fallible. Not even close. There are a lot of issues that arise here. From different translations to… well, all sorts of things to be quite honest.
But the fact of the matter is—I believe in God. I believe in His Holy Word. I believe all that it says.
What comes from His Word is fact. Fact to me. But if you, yourself, doubt His Word, then you will never see it as such.
Hebrews 4:11-13 “Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. For The Word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.”
I would like to challenge you to read His word. See for yourself what is in there. God can show you the Truth. Not man’s idea of the truth or what they think it should be.
Isaiah 55:10-11 “For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater; So shall My Word be that goeth forth out of My Mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and It shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent It.”
I would also like to apologize that my comments have come to you so late. If you would ever like to send an email to continue any discussion—I would be glad to, as these comments are hard to read and must be broken up
ANON: “Also, I am reviewing the sources you gave me and will reply with my thoughts on those. I would also like to give you some sources to look at as well, although I am not claiming I agree with everything from these sources, but they do present evidence to support and dispute, just like any other source. I hope you will review these and give me your thoughts as well”
ReplyDeleteAP31: Here I would like to ask what “evidence” you are asking me to review? There is no scientific evidence that disproves God, and philosophical "evidence" is not evidence, it’s just opinion.
Please also feel free to email me, as these comments are hard to navigate. Thanks!
A last thought or two…
ReplyDeleteThese sites may also give some clarification to some of the above subjects and then some:
http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/outreach-events/2006/06/30/%E2%80%9Cgive-me-empirical-proof-that-there-is-a-god%E2%80%9D/
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/au/the-ultimate-proof-of-creation
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/wow/best-proof-of-creation
Again, please feel free to email me anytime with any further questions.
Praying for your clarification of God’s Word and His truth. With only thoughts of love,
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